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Tark Alkerk · Jul 16, 2006, 05:07 AM // 05:07

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Originally Posted by leprekan

Trolling the first? Sorry but the vast number of NON warriors in this thread screams troll.

well whats the point of having a thread were only angry warriors who bought items and armour at ridculess prices can muse about how much money they have lost manipulating a bug?

leprekan · Jul 16, 2006, 05:11 AM // 05:11

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Originally Posted by Stockholm

Sorry to dissepoint you but I have a Wammo thats gone through both chapters, and have 15K armor + pluse some deasent weapons( no +100K weapons but max), and super vigor and super abs.

When you get to the top of the food chain on weapons, shields and armor ... feel free to get back to me if they are made obsolete.

Shendaar · Jul 16, 2006, 05:12 AM // 05:12

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Originally Posted by Tark Alkerk

well whats the point of having a thread were only angry warriors who bought items and armour at ridculess prices can muse about how much money they have lost manipulating a bug?

He just doesn't have any concrete argument to back his opinion, so calling everyone that doesn't agree with him a troll is now his only course of action.

Stockholm · Jul 16, 2006, 05:14 AM // 05:14

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Originally Posted by leprekan

When you get to the top of the food chain on weapons, shields and armor ... feel free to get back to me if they are made obsolete.

IT'S JUST A GAME
unless you put your lives savings on E-BAY to get the uber stuff

By the way your Guild name say's it all.

Chris Blackstar · Jul 16, 2006, 05:19 AM // 05:19

maybe a good thing, go on strike and let the sins take over, personally I think that it is a plus in then end, given that your secondary can make up the difference in defense or offence, depending what you need.

leprekan · Jul 16, 2006, 05:19 AM // 05:19

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Originally Posted by Tark Alkerk

well whats the point of having a thread were only angry warriors who bought items and armour at ridculess prices can muse about how much money they have lost manipulating a bug?

It is called trying to send a message to Anet (since they don't give us a DIRECT way to contact them ... here we are). IE attempting to voice concerns that people like you are attempting to make look trivial. If everything you had spent 14 months to get was suddenly made obsolete I doubt you would go oh well. The shields don't even give DR when running over coral now ... hellooooo how is coral not physical damage? The only "bug" was knights boots for DR. If it was a ""bug" why did it take 14 friggen months to correct? Shields were NOT a bug the absorption rune was NOT a bug. The original OP started this thread for who? The gloating troll Ele or the unhappy warrior?

leprekan · Jul 16, 2006, 05:25 AM // 05:25

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Originally Posted by Shendaar

He just doesn't have any concrete argument to back his opinion, so calling everyone that doesn't agree with him a troll is now his only course of action.

Please feel free to show me where any of my complaints are not "concrete".

Stockholm · Jul 16, 2006, 05:28 AM // 05:28

Leprekan what do you want?
101 pages off unhappy warriors rageing about the update?
thats still less than 1/10000 of the player base.
No amount of rageing posts is going to change anything.
So far not one single post here has stated a valid reson why the update should be rolldback( personal loss do not count, a-net don't give a shit about that).
Can you give one (1) valid reson? That a-net would listen to.

leprekan · Jul 16, 2006, 05:39 AM // 05:39

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Originally Posted by Stockholm

Leprekan what do you want?
101 pages off unhappy warriors rageing about the update?
thats still less than 1/10000 of the player base.
No amount of rageing posts is going to change anything.
So far not one single post here has stated a valid reson why the update should be rolldback( personal loss do not count, a-net don't give a shit about that).
Can you give one (1) valid reson? That a-net would listen to.

I invite you to click on my name ... then feel free to read ALL posts made by my name. If you still do not see a valid argument in those posts I either failed to convey the issue or perhaps you do not wish to see what I was saying. Anything beyond this post is obviously going to be troll bait (not saying you) which is why I am not going to repeat my same arguments again.

MMSDome · Jul 16, 2006, 05:43 AM // 05:43

/signed!

Eet GnomeSmasher · Jul 16, 2006, 05:47 AM // 05:47

Global absorption was so obviously a bug/not intended that I cant believe that you'd argue that it wasnt. If one pair of boots can have a global effect then why would anyone even buy the whole set of armor? The answer is that no one would and that's exactly what happend.

Now you'd have a case against ANET for taking so long to fix it and wasting everyone's money. But it's also your own fault for taking advantage of this unintended "feature"

And my last point is that this change is no where near as huge a deal as a lot of you are making it to be. Overreacting is the word here.

Jessyi · Jul 16, 2006, 05:49 AM // 05:49

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Originally Posted by tomcruisejr

the update was not to weaken the warrior but to buff the elementalist.

I thought that too until I realized that the absorption wasn't changed just to increase damage from elementalists, but from all characters dealing non-physical damage. Good thing too, as the thought occured to me about 10 seconds before I started an "If you want to buff elementalists, then buff the damn elementalists instead of nerfing warriors" post.

As to the Warrior strike, if there is one I'll show up just for the sheer drama of it. Should be fun.

-Jessyi

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Originally Posted by Eet GnomeSmasher

Now you'd have a case against ANET for taking so long to fix it and wasting everyone's money. But it's also your own fault for taking advantage of this unintended "feature"

Ah yeah, the old "Blame people for being people" arguement. I always get a kick out of reading it. After something stays the same for a year, isn't it reasonable to assume that that game element is permanent?

Shendaar · Jul 16, 2006, 05:55 AM // 05:55

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Originally Posted by leprekan

Please feel free to show me where any of my complaints are not "concrete".

You offer no solution whatsoever. You probably just want everything to be rolled back, but that is not gonna happen, so you better start looking for another solution. Other than that your post consisted only on calling people trolls and whining about how you lost X amount of money because apparently ALL your gears are now obsolete. You even went as fair as mocking about the storage update, which is just purely unrelated and adds nothing to your argument. Oh and you bragged about how much fame you have, basicly claiming that what you say is true because of that, but again, this is completely unrelated. You also complained about them taking so long to change the items, which is understandable, but everyone knows that they just recently developped the technology to do so, so at least the knight armor change was to be expect. That is also without talking of your wild claim about the fansites population.

Sorry, but I don't consider all this to be "Valid" arguments, especially since most of it is either unrelated or just pure whining.

leprekan · Jul 16, 2006, 05:56 AM // 05:56

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Originally Posted by Eet GnomeSmasher

Global absorption was so obviously a bug/not intended that I cant believe that you'd argue that it wasnt. If one pair of boots can have a global effect then why would anyone even buy the whole set of armor? The answer is that no one would and that's exactly what happend.

Now you'd have a case against ANET for taking so long to fix it and wasting everyone's money. But it's also your own fault for taking advantage of this unintended "feature"

And my last point is that this change is no where near as huge a deal as a lot of you are making it to be. Overreacting is the word here.

Err taking 14 months to "fix a bug" hardly seems like a bug when the third chapter is closing in on release. Fine they nerfed the boots ... feel free to explain to me how the absorption rune and shields needed to be nerfed or how they were a bug before this. Which again took them 14 months to correct if they were a bug.

Eet GnomeSmasher · Jul 16, 2006, 05:58 AM // 05:58

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Originally Posted by Jessyi

Ah yeah, the old "Blame people for being people" arguement. I always get a kick out of reading it. After something stays the same for a year, isn't it reasonable to assume that that game element is permanent?

Game rules are never permanent. Unless something physical (as in items or gold) was taken away from you ingame, everything is fair game.

Besides, as I said before, there's no way that you didnt expect that this would be fixed. Global effect just by having one piece of armor? Come on. You know that was unintended.

leprekan · Jul 16, 2006, 06:04 AM // 06:04

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Originally Posted by Shendaar

You offer no solution whatsoever. You probably just want everything to be rolled back, but that is not gonna happen, so you better start looking for another solution. Other than that your post consisted only on calling people trolls and whining about how you lost X amount of money because apparently ALL your gears are now obsolete. You even went as fair as mocking about the storage update, which is just purely unrelated and adds nothing to your argument. Oh and you bragged about how much fame you have, basicly claiming that what you say is true because of that, but again, this is completely unrelated. You also complained about them taking so long to change the items, which is understandable, but everyone knows that they just recently developped the technology to do so, so at least the knight armor change was to be expect. That is also without talking of your wild claim about the fansites population.

Sorry, but I don't consider all this to be "Valid" arguments, especially since most of it is either unrelated or just pure whining.

**GASP** I am shocked that is what you got out of my posts!!! NOT. It is obvious the only thing you and I can accomplish is an argument. You are taking posts or parts of posts without looking at what they are in response to. The mention of my fame was in response to the person implying I was so noob I didn't know what an adrenaline spike was etc. I could go line by line and rebutt your post but ... how about we just agree to disagree. Us having a flame fest with eachother will only serve to close the thread and that is not fair to the original OP.

Eet GnomeSmasher · Jul 16, 2006, 06:06 AM // 06:06

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Originally Posted by leprekan

Err taking 14 months to "fix a bug" hardly seems like a bug when the third chapter is closing in on release. Fine they nerfed the boots ... feel free to explain to me how the absorption rune and shields needed to be nerfed or how they were a bug before this. Which again took them 14 months to correct if they were a bug.

Take note that I've only mentioned the global effect of the armor. I never said that the absorption runes or shields needed to be nerfed. But also, I dont feel like the nerf was anything huge either.

Shendaar · Jul 16, 2006, 06:07 AM // 06:07

Well for starter quit calling everyone a troll and maybe it won't be closed. Still, you present no proof that the changes have unbalanced the game, so no matter how much you whine, nothing is gonna happen.

zakaria · Jul 16, 2006, 06:10 AM // 06:10

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Originally Posted by Tark Alkerk

well whats the point of having a thread were only angry warriors who bought items and armour at ridculess prices can muse about how much money they have lost manipulating a bug?

Give me one old thread or post that ppl were complaining about this as BUG and we were exploiting BUG for 14 months until this update.
We all accepted what we had from 14 months and nobody stated before this was bug or exploit..you are acting like you were keep posting threads and e-mails to Anerf that please nerf this exploit...don't kid yourself.

Jessyi · Jul 16, 2006, 06:12 AM // 06:12

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Originally Posted by Eet GnomeSmasher

Game rules are never permanent. Unless something physical (as in items or gold) was taken away from you ingame, everything is fair game.

Besides, as I said before, there's no way that you didnt expect that this would be fixed. Global effect just by having one piece of armor? Come on. You know that was unintended.

I might have used the wrong word saying "permanent". In other posts I have stated that I agree on principle with the updates, and that yes, everything is fair game. I also agree that absorption on knights should always have been locational and I believe it was unintentional. However my complaint is with ANets super slow motion reaction times and not the updates themselves. Exploit or not, is it in any way sensible to expect people to play a character KNOWINGLY using an armor configuration that's less than the best? If you're going to play to win, then you take all the advantages given. ANet gave an advantage and people took it. That's ANet's fault if anyones. Hence my one-line snub of the old "blame people for being people" arguement. Just wanted to clarify.

-Jessyi